Dr Michael Durtnall - London UK

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Dr Michael Durtnall - London UK

Postby Mod4 » Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:24 pm

Bio for Michael Durtnall

Michael Durtnall: DC MSc FRCC (Orth)

Qualified as Doctor of Chiropractic DC with Diploma in Roentgenology (Radiology) from the Anglo European College of Chiropractic (AECC). Diplomate of the American National Board of Chiropractic Examiners and diplomate of the Canadian National Board of Chiropractic Examiners.

Registered with the General Chiropractic Council GCC.

Elected Fellow of the Royal College of Chiropractors FRCC (Orth)

Fellow of the Royal Society of Medicine.

Masters in Performing Arts Medicine MSc at University College London UCL 2013 to specialize in treatment of musicians, performers and dancers' specific injuries.

Founder of Sayer Clinics: London in Kensington W8, Cavendish Square W1 and Moorgate City of London EC2 with Chiropractors, Osteopaths, Physiotherapists, Acupuncturists and Massage Therapists.

Sayer Clinics provide low-dose standing, digital, computed radiology for accurate musculoskeletal assessment of leg length discrepancy, disc compression/ torsion/ narrowing/ instability, pelvic obliquity, thoraco-lumbar scoliosis, pelvic torsion or twisting of sacroiliac or sacro-coccygeal joints which with soft-tissue dysfunction may compress or irritate pudendal and pelvic nerves causing pudendal neuralgia.

Dr. Durtnall has had a keen clinical interest in coccyx and pelvic pain throughout his career and has extensive experience in manual treatment of pelvic and coccyx pain and dysfunction. He studied with New Yorker Amy Stein (author of 'Heal Pelvic Pain') at her workshop at the World Congress of Lower Back and Pelvic Pain in Barcelona in 2007.

He also studied 'hands-on' with the American pelvic pain guru Dr Rhonda Kotarinos at her UK workshop at St George's Hospital in Tooting, London and together they treated pelvic pain patients at Dr. Durtnalls's clinic in Kensington.

He practices full-time at Sayer Clinic in Kensington treating mostly coccyx and pelvic pain patients who come from all across the UK and Europe and fly in, usually for a week, from all parts of the world.

He has also been conducting research in paediatric bone-growth part-time for the last two years at UCL's Institute of Musculoskeletal Science (IOMS), Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital, Stanmore and plans to transfer his research to the Institute of Child Health ICH for the next five years.

He presented the first ever full-day workshop on coccyx and pelvic pain in Dubai in 2013 at the 8th World Congress of Low Back and Pelvic Pain and has been invited to speak at the inaugural Congress on Coccyx pain in Paris in July 2016.

His manual treatment is combined with his team of specialist pelvic pain physiotherapists Sofia Ornellas Pinto, Marta Dias De Oliveira and Karolina Krzaczek.

See the pelvic pain link: http://www.sayerclinics.com/conditions- ... ccyx-pain/, and research at http://www.coccyx.org/medabs/durtnall.htm

Dr. Durtnall is a registered specialist with BUPA, Bupa International, Aviva, Cigna, Aetna and all good UK and international private health Insurers.

Treatment:

Spinal, Pelvic, Sacroiliac and Coccygeal Manipulative Therapy.

Pelvic Floor Trigger Point releases, Medical Acupuncture and Pudendal Nerve Active Release Techniques.

Digital X-ray Posture and Gait Analysis and postural rehabilitation.

Manual Pelvic Physical Therapy.

Low-Intensity Laser Therapy.

Full Spinal Manipulation and Postural Functional Rehabilitation.

To refer or book an appointment to see Dr. Durtnall or the Physical Therapy team:
Contact Alexandra by email to mail@sayerclinics.com or go online to http://www.sayerclinics.com and click on 'Book now' - select Michael Durtnall or one of their chiropractors, osteopaths or physical therapists and choose a date and time and book your appointment.

If you need advice, please email Alexandra at mail@sayerclinics.com
or call her or Lucie on 020 7937 8978.

Practice Manager: Alexandra Codarcea

Email: mail@sayerclinics.com
Phone: 020 7937 8978

Sayer Coccyx and Pelvic Pain Clinics: London
8, Sunningdale Gardens, Stratford Road, Kensington, London, W8 6PX

Telephone: 020 7937 8978
E-mail: mail@sayerclinics.com
Website: http://www.sayerclinics.com

Dr. Durtnall's personal Interests: Family, scientific research, tennis, music
and travel.
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Re: Dr Michael Durtnall - London UK

Postby Alan1646 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:35 pm

Excuse me for asking, but isn't this advertising?
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Re: Dr Michael Durtnall - London UK

Postby Mod4 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:29 pm

Alan 1646

Dr Durtnall is a HOPE Adviser, the Moderators have approved this information and posted it so that patients in the UK and Ireland can avail of his knowledge and treatments. We feel it is important to provide this information about his services so as to help our members in this region to decide if it may be useful to them.
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Re: Dr Michael Durtnall - London UK

Postby Alan1646 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:02 am

Mod4 wrote:Alan 1646

Dr Durtnall is a HOPE Adviser, the Moderators have approved this information and posted it so that patients in the UK and Ireland can avail of his knowledge and treatments. We feel it is important to provide this information about his services so as to help our members in this region to decide if it may be useful to them.

That's interesting. Thank you. Could you please explain how someone gets to be "a Hope Advisor"? Can any chiropractor achieve that status or is there some kind of selection process? Do people apply or are they co-opted?
Is there any objective evidence to support the effectiveness of the treatments offered by Dr Durtnall and of Chiropractic in general for PN, and is he a qualified medical doctor in the same way as Dr Baranowksi?
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Re: Dr Michael Durtnall - London UK

Postby mod3 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:47 am

Alan1646 wrote:. Could you please explain how someone gets to be "a Hope Advisor"? Can any chiropractor achieve that status or is there some kind of selection process? Do people apply or are they co-opted?
Is there any objective evidence to support the effectiveness of the treatments offered by Dr Durtnall and of Chiropractic in general for PN, and is he a qualified medical doctor in the same way as Dr Baranowksi?


Advisers are invited by the HOPE directors/moderators. They do not apply. Typically advisers are licensed health care practitioners who specialize in the area of pudendal neuralgia. Dr. Durtnall studied under Amy Stein and Rhonda Kotarinas, two of the expert PN physical therapists in the USA. He is not an MD but he is a licensed DC. We would not invite just any chiropractor to be an adviser. For publications on the role of PT for PN patients you can go to this link: http://www.pudendalhope.info/node/25#Physical_Therapy This is not an exhaustive list of publications.

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Re: Dr Michael Durtnall - London UK

Postby Alan1646 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:11 pm

I repeat, what is the objective evidence that any Chiropractor has improved the condition of patients diagnosed with PN/PNE ? You posted some information relating to Physiotherapists but I can't find anything relating to Chiropractors and PN/PNE.
I am copying here some information from the NHS official website regarding Chiropractors :
"Does it work?
Chiropractic is a healthcare profession and not a single treatment. Evidence about chiropractic generally refers to one or more of the treatments that chiropractors offer.
There is good evidence that manual therapy which may include spinal manipulation – as practised by chiropractors – can be an effective treatment for persistent lower back pain. Conventional treatments for persistent lower back pain include painkillers, exercise and physiotherapy.
There is some, mostly poor-quality, evidence that spinal manipulation is an effective treatment for some other musculoskeletal conditions involving the bones, joints and soft tissue. The evidence on manual therapy, including spinal manipulation, is not strong enough in these cases to form the basis of a recommendation to use the treatment.
[b]There is no evidence that treatments offered by chiropractors are effective for other conditions.[/b]
There is also no scientific evidence to support the idea that most illness is caused by misalignment of the spine."

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/chiropract ... ction.aspx

What then is the evidence you have that can be set against the official NHS information?
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Re: Dr Michael Durtnall - London UK

Postby Violet M » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:44 pm

I don't know if you looked at the website, Alan. He has a team of physiotherapists. It's not just chiropractic treatments.

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Re: Dr Michael Durtnall - London UK

Postby Alan1646 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:02 am

You have recommended someone who is qualified as a Chiropractor. I asked what objective evidence there is that any Chiropractor can successfully treat PN/PNE. That is after all what this site is about.

You have not answered the question and have not provided any evidence.

You say that Dr Durtnall has a team of physiotherapists but I'm not sure how that is relevant to recommending someone whose qualification is to work as a Chiropractor. Are you recommending the physiotherapists?
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Re: Dr Michael Durtnall - London UK

Postby Violet M » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:05 am

As an organization we don't endorse or recommend anyone. We just list the information on providers and people can do what they want with it. If Dr. Durtnall trained with Amy Stein and Rhonda he obviously learned some of their techniques and they are physical therapists. In his bio he says he does pelvic floor trigger point release and manual therapy. I don't know...is that physical therapy? People can make up their own minds whether they want to go see him or his physical therapists.

People can post their experiences about him if they want to. We allowed you to post yours, Alan.

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PNE since 2002. Started from weightlifting. PNE surgery from Dr. Bautrant, Oct 2004. Pain now is usually a 0 and I can sit for hours on certain chairs. No longer take medication for PNE. Can work full time and do "The Firm" exercise program. 99% cured from PGAD. PNE surgery was right for me but it might not be for you. Do your research.
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Re: Dr Michael Durtnall - London UK

Postby Alan1646 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:08 am

You say that you don't recommend anyone but do state : "Dr Durtnall is a HOPE Adviser, the Moderators have approved this information" You haven't explained the process by which a practitioner becomes a "HOPE adviser", which I am sure is something those reading these boards would like to know. Is there not some kind of selection process? Is any such selection process based on evidence and , if so, where can readers find the evidence?

You still haven't answered my question about objective evidence: what objective evidence is there that any chiropractor's treatment is effective for PN/PNE?

There are many prominent Physiotherapists working in the UK so could you please explain how you chose between them when appointing "HOPE advisers".
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