unguided nerve block? Please help me!

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Krisssy
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unguided nerve block? Please help me!

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I am scheduled to have an unguided nerve block by a gynecologist who specializes in pelvic pain. I have been suffering for three years with cliteral/vaginal pain. arousal disorder, frequenn t urination and urgency and constipation. After doing extensive research, i believe this is a pudential nerve problem probably resulti ng from three abdominal surgeries. I am in a tremendous amount of pain at this point. I would like some feedback as to whether I should let this Dr. do a nerve block on Tues. (which would be unguided) or if I should hold off and let Dr. Potter do an MRI testig for pudental nerve problems and if the results are positive go to a PN specialist FOR GUIDED injections and possibly surgery.Thank you all in advance for any advice you can give me.Krisssy

surgery 2004 for prolapsed rectum
surgery 2005 for obstruction due to abdominal scar tissue
surgery 2007 for obstruction due to abdominal scar tissue
2008-clitoral pain, arousal disorder, frequent urination began
2011-pelvic pain specialist-Dr. Robert Echenberg
MRI-Dr. Potter 8/11 showing scar formation of pudental nerve
appt. Dr. Conway-10/11
appt. for guided sedated nerve block with Dr. Quesada-10/11
appt. with Dr. Hibner-1/12
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Re: unguided nerve block? Please help me!

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Hi Krissey,
Everything I have read and understood so far indicates that an unguidedI block is either worse than useless or could possibly cause greater problems. However I read very recently that Dr Dr Bisschop does these blocks unguided but then he is very well practised . I would still want mine guided !
You do seem to have many classic PN symptoms. Is the block diagnostic or simply for pain relief btw?
Diagnostically if the block has no effect the physician may indicate than PN is not a problem for you when they have simply missed the target and you are back to square one.
Obviously I know nothing of the gynaecologist you are referring to, they may be excellent but you seem to have reservations already ? ? Whether or not you go for a Potter scan or not I would always want a guided block by a PN aware specialist.
Let us know what you decide and the outcome.
Take care,
Helen
Fall 2008. Misdiagnosed with lumber spine problem. MRN June 2010 indicated pudendal entrapment at Alcocks canal. Diagnosed with complex variant piriformis syndrome with sciatic, pudendal and gluteal entrapment's by Dr Filler 2010.Guided piriformis botox injection 2011 Bristol. 2013, Nerve conduction test positive; new spinal MRI scan negative, so diagnosed for the 4th time with pelvic nerve entrapment, now recognised as Sciatic, pudendal, PFCN and cluneal nerves at piriformis level.
Krisssy
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The nerve block I am scheduled for is for pain relief. I want to go to one of the listed PN specialists for a guided nerve block and testing for PN. i can't decide which one would be best. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Meanwhile I have to decide if I should cancel the pain relief nerve block. The Dr. did spend almost 3 hours with me. Did anyone ever go to Dr. Robert Echenberg in Pa.? He is a pelvic pain specialist but not a PN specialist. Krisssy

surgery 2004 for prolapsed rectum
surgery 2005 for obstruction due to abdominal scar tissue
surgery 2007 for obstruction due to abdominal scar tissue
2008-clitoral pain, arousal disorder, frequent urination began
2011-pelvic pain specialist-Dr. Robert Echenberg
MRI-Dr. Potter 8/11 showing scar formation of pudental nerve
appt. Dr. Conway-10/11
appt. for guided sedated nerve block with Dr. Quesada-10/11
appt. with Dr. Hibner-1/12
nyt
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If you are in alot of pain and feel you could use the nerve block then make sure you ask how many of these he has done. Some ob/gyn dr.'s routinely do pudendal blocks through the vagina for some deliveries and are quite good at them. You can still look through this forum at all the different pudendal dr.'s and decide which one you would like to see. Some of them have quite a long waiting time while others don't (2-10 months depending on PN dr.). There are varied experiences on this forum when it comes to pudendal nerve blocks even when guided. I have had about 8 of them done by Dr. Westesson in Rochester, NY. He does them CT guided and like most individuals I get a flare and then feel better but I have never been left with any new or worsening symptoms. There have been others on this forum who have had pudendal nerve blocks unguided and guided that have ended up worse. No one can guarantee that a pudendal block won't make your worse. However, I think all the dr.'s require it for diagnostic purposes.

You also might want to see if the dr. will order the MRI with Dr. Potter. It is well worth the travel and will give you valuable information.
2/07 LAVH and TOT 7/07 TOT right side removed 9/07 IL, IH and GN neuropathy 11/07 PN - Dr. Howard
6/08 Obturator neuralgia - Dr. Conway 11/08 Disability, piriformis syndrome - Dr. Howard
4/09 Bilateral obturator decompression surgery, BLL RSD - Dr. Howard
9/10 Removed left side TOT, botox, re-evaluate obturator nerve - Dr. Hibner
2/11 LFCN and saphenous neuralgia - Dr. Dellon 2/11 MRI with Dr. Potter - confirmed entrapment
5/11 Right side TG - Dr. Hibner 2012 Left side TG - Dr. Hibner
Krisssy
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Yes my Dr. is going to give me a prescriptipn for Dr. Potter. I live in NY which makes it easy. Then I intend to bring the results to Dr. Conway, Dr. Hibner and the Houston group before I make a decision. Three years of pain is enough!

surgery 2004 for prolapsed rectum
surgery 2005 for obstruction due to abdominal scar tissue
surgery 2007 for obstruction due to abdominal scar tissue
2008-clitoral pain, arousal disorder, frequent urination began
2011-pelvic pain specialist-Dr. Robert Echenberg
MRI-Dr. Potter 8/11 showing scar formation of pudental nerve
appt. Dr. Conway-10/11
appt. for guided sedated nerve block with Dr. Quesada-10/11
appt. with Dr. Hibner-1/12
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