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Neurosonology already used in PN diagnosis ?
Posted: Mon May 11, 2026 4:36 pm
by Aua.de
Hello,
is anything known regarding examinations using neurosonology in relation to the PN issue?
Becaus I'm reading in the net about: "A high-resolution, non-invasive imaging technique for the direct visualization of peripheral nerves, which is increasingly used for the diagnosis of nerve compression syndromes."
Re: Neurosonology already used in PN diagnosis ?
Posted: Tue May 12, 2026 4:10 am
by Violet M
I've heard of ultrasound being used for image guidance to give pudendal nerve blocks, but I haven't heard of it being used directly to see pudendal nerve compression. It would be great if the technology has gotten to that point! Where on the net did you read about it?
Re: Neurosonology already used in PN diagnosis ?
Posted: Tue May 12, 2026 5:42 pm
by Aua.de
Hello Violet,
it's really not too much to find in the internet about Neurosonology and PN.
Because of that my question here.
This sentence was the result of Google AI:
"A high-resolution, non-invasive imaging technique for the direct visualization of peripheral nerves, which is increasingly used for the diagnosis of nerve compression syndromes."
A doctor's office which can do the examination is not very far from my place.
Therefore I would like to inquire whether such an examination would be worthwhile.
A little I could find about neurosonology and PN:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23180573/
and
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12804544/
Re: Neurosonology already used in PN diagnosis ?
Posted: Tue May 12, 2026 9:53 pm
by eraser
Aua.de wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2026 5:42 pm
Hello Violet,
it's really not too much to find in the internet about Neurosonology and PN.
Because of that my question here.
This sentence was the result of Google AI:
"A high-resolution, non-invasive imaging technique for the direct visualization of peripheral nerves, which is increasingly used for the diagnosis of nerve compression syndromes."
A doctor's office which can do the examination is not very far from my place.
Therefore I would like to inquire whether such an examination would be worthwhile.
A little I could find about neurosonology and PN:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23180573/
and
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12804544/
I would be really interested in what you find out. I suspect they essentially infer compression by identifying compression of the pudendal artery.
Dr Bollens refers to use of ultrasonography doppler - see
https://youtu.be/QcfT1eD8yv8?si=UqgUSLtBCVUw3qSL&t=1830
Re: Neurosonology already used in PN diagnosis ?
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 6:02 am
by Violet M
Thanks for the links, Aua.
That second article you posted, which is a pretty recent article (December 2025) says in the key summary points that "ultrasound and electrophysiological tests show limited diagnostic accuracy." They looked at a lot of articles in their literature review.
Color dopplar ultrasound has been used to assess the pudendal blood vessels that run alongside the pudendal nerve.
Violet
Re: Neurosonology already used in PN diagnosis ?
Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 11:00 am
by eraser
Violet M wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 6:02 am
Thanks for the links, Aua.
That second article you posted, which is a pretty recent article (December 2025) says in the key summary points that "ultrasound and electrophysiological tests show limited diagnostic accuracy." They looked at a lot of articles in their literature review.
Color dopplar ultrasound has been used to assess the pudendal blood vessels that run alongside the pudendal nerve.
Violet
They seem to use the colour dopplar ultrasound as routine in the UK, as they have used it when doing all of my blocks.
Very interesting that the dial doesn't seem to have moved in terms of diagnostic testing. They really need to label it as a diagnosis of exclusion.
Re: Neurosonology already used in PN diagnosis ?
Posted: Tue May 19, 2026 6:10 am
by Violet M
eraser wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2026 11:00 am
They really need to label it as a diagnosis of exclusion.
The Nantes Criteria article suggests some exclusion criteria for pudendal nerve entrapment but it concludes that:
"The diagnosis of pudendal neuralgia by
pudendal nerve entrapment syndrome is essentially clinical."
https://www.pudendalhope.info/wp-conten ... iteria.pdf
But even the criteria they list in their article didn't match exactly for me because they say the symptoms don't keep you awake at night but that was not true for me. I barely slept for several months until I got onto some medication to help me sleep.
Violet
Re: Neurosonology already used in PN diagnosis ?
Posted: Wed May 20, 2026 10:50 pm
by eraser
Violet M wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2026 6:10 am
eraser wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2026 11:00 am
They really need to label it as a diagnosis of exclusion.
The Nantes Criteria article suggests some exclusion criteria for pudendal nerve entrapment but it concludes that:
"The diagnosis of pudendal neuralgia by
pudendal nerve entrapment syndrome is essentially clinical."
https://www.pudendalhope.info/wp-conten ... iteria.pdf
But even the criteria they list in their article didn't match exactly for me because they say the symptoms don't keep you awake at night but that was not true for me. I barely slept for several months until I got onto some medication to help me sleep.
Violet
I should be going for surgery soon but yeah I did have occassions in which it was difficult. I have had my symptoms develop as time went on.
Re: Neurosonology already used in PN diagnosis ?
Posted: Thu May 21, 2026 4:36 am
by Violet M
eraser wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2026 10:50 pm
I should be going for surgery soon
Sure hope it turns out well for you. You've been waiting awhile already. Do you know which surgeon yet?
Re: Neurosonology already used in PN diagnosis ?
Posted: Thu May 21, 2026 9:56 am
by eraser
Violet M wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2026 4:36 am
eraser wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2026 10:50 pm
I should be going for surgery soon
Sure hope it turns out well for you. You've been waiting awhile already. Do you know which surgeon yet?
Thank you
Surgery on the NHS is a non-starter, so I've seen Dr Bollens and I am hoping to get surgery next month.