while doing some research for pelvic pain (and my newly developed coccycx pain) I came across this company
has anyone used this kind of seat?
I am thinking of ordering one and wanted
to know if anyone had any experience with one
http://carmichaelthrone.com/
Carmichael Throne?
Re: Carmichael Throne?
wow looks very interesting!
PNE onset 9/2008
Weekly pelvic floor PT since 9/2008
Numerous nerve blocks 2008 - current (pn, s2-s4 epidurals, pelvic/lumbar/splanchnic sympathetic)
PRF s2,3,4 May 2009
Numerous hip injections and trigger point injections
Numerous rounds of botox (first 12/08 - most recent 5/13)
Hibner consult / Kalinkin MRI 11/10
PT with PHRC in May 2013
Weekly pelvic floor PT since 9/2008
Numerous nerve blocks 2008 - current (pn, s2-s4 epidurals, pelvic/lumbar/splanchnic sympathetic)
PRF s2,3,4 May 2009
Numerous hip injections and trigger point injections
Numerous rounds of botox (first 12/08 - most recent 5/13)
Hibner consult / Kalinkin MRI 11/10
PT with PHRC in May 2013
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I just got it on Friday 4/20 - set it up and sat in it for a few hours toward the end of the day
My initial thought: design is perfect - really alleviates pressure down there but the seat padding is a bit stiff for my bones
Gonna bring a cushion on Monday and see how it feels with a bit of padding
- Elliot
My initial thought: design is perfect - really alleviates pressure down there but the seat padding is a bit stiff for my bones
Gonna bring a cushion on Monday and see how it feels with a bit of padding
- Elliot
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Which one did you order? and where is your pain - perineum, cocycx, genital? Thanks for any reply.
Bamboo
Bamboo
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Hi Edog,
How did the Carmichael throne work out?
I'm using swimming noodles, but they wear out fast.
I could use this chair at work.
But, the question is, does it really work for PNE.
Thanks,
Skip
How did the Carmichael throne work out?
I'm using swimming noodles, but they wear out fast.
I could use this chair at work.
But, the question is, does it really work for PNE.
Thanks,
Skip
Right testicle pain started ~2005
Stanford Pain clinic (~2007).
Dr Weiss diagnosed PNE; said I needed to go to Hibner for surgery (2010'ish). Sorry, no surgery for me.
Neuro-stim (~2012) caused horrible back pain - removed; pain pump 13 or early 14.
Pump brings pain level down by ~ 50%; Prialt and fentanyly in pain pump
Since going on disability much easier to control pain levels with bedrest - Carmichael throne helps too.
Since fusion at L2/L3 pain meds decreased by 50% ! Yesss!
Stanford Pain clinic (~2007).
Dr Weiss diagnosed PNE; said I needed to go to Hibner for surgery (2010'ish). Sorry, no surgery for me.
Neuro-stim (~2012) caused horrible back pain - removed; pain pump 13 or early 14.
Pump brings pain level down by ~ 50%; Prialt and fentanyly in pain pump
Since going on disability much easier to control pain levels with bedrest - Carmichael throne helps too.
Since fusion at L2/L3 pain meds decreased by 50% ! Yesss!
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Hi Folks
Does anyone know if the above chair works well for those of us who can't sit?
Esp if pain is in anal/rectal or perineal area.
Pls post what you think of it!
Thx
Does anyone know if the above chair works well for those of us who can't sit?
Esp if pain is in anal/rectal or perineal area.
Pls post what you think of it!
Thx
Chairs for pudendal pain Re: carmichael Throne company
Hi - I don't get on here very often anymore but thought I should reply to this : As its been a lifesaver .
"RE : Which one did you order? and where is your pain - perineum, cocycx, genital? Thanks for any reply."
My pain was sacrum , pudendal , perineum, cocycx, and genitals. I would also get alot of burning on my buttocks , back of upper thighs -IE where you sit !
and upper inner thighs IE S2,/3/4 dermatodes ? if you look at the map- I had burning in all those areas , as well as rectal spasms.
I got PN from 4 large bilateral tarlov cysts .
I also started, after I was able to sit longer over 30 mins ( about 2 1/2 yrs postop tarlov Cyst Surgery ) to go numb -
quite quickly , when I sat on the floor- Crosslegged which was my most comfortable position . But otherwise , sitting was still a trigger for pain for me , even though the surgery fixed the most severe pains I had. And sitting was what I needed to do , do get on with my life and back to work .
I of course have a billion different cushions I tried- Another post would be needed to explain how I found the best one for me.
But with chairs - as we know even the best cushion desnt work - unless the chair itself is perfectly flat - Not many are.
I bought the kneeeling chair - and did a cut out at the back- tailbone area - and added cushion as it bottoms out quickly - kind of worked but only for very short sits
Then I got the Hara Chair - it was okay - ( my husband loves it- but again only worked for short periods as the gap wasnt wide enough - there was still too much pressure on my tender - easily irritated areas . See above .
these chairs are fantastic- I just got Mine. I knew about them months ago and contacted the owner Dan Carmichael as soon as learned of them .
It has taken awhile to get mine, not because of him, but because I had my state Dept of Rehab buy mine, as part of my reasonable accommadation package for getting back to work .
Dan Carmichael , The owner of the company is great , He is a wealth of knowledge and can steer you to the chair best suited to your needs. He did a ton of research and had alot of imput from chiro/pt and ergonomic sitting experts to make sure that the chairs would still be the best support for lower back and hips , even though they have the center cut out to eliminate any Perineal. pressure /contact .
What is amazing , is he too had pudendal and tailbone pain . Which is why he developed them. - first, drum stools ( he was a professional drummer) then the task chairs.
Out of desperation, over his own condition and a concern over supporting his own growing family .
Kind of devine intervention , if you believe in such things. He is super easy to talk to , a very humble, and compassionate man . He gets it , as he has been there.
I am thrilled with my chair . - I have the drafting task chair CT 1690 w/ foot rest . That best suits my work ( music editor) and I can easily go from sit to stand as needed with this set up, the drafting chair and a adjustable tilt drafting table . I have the drafting table set so that all I need to do is push the chair back and i am in the standing position- Nothing needs adjusting , I can go back and forth as needed . Anyone in the DC area that wishes to try mine , first , is welcome to contact me -
Within the month there should be one of the desk type chairs, which are lower - for a typical desk setup, at my physical therapists office near Baltimore.
The drum stools are in Sam Ash music stores.
They give you an idea , the chairs are not quite as firm as the drum stools, So don't be put off by that , if you try the drum stool first .
All the chairs are hand made in the US and can be Customized for the client 's specific needs.
I have a larger gap 3 1/2 inch instead of 3 ( standard) as that suits my needs and butt size LOL
It also paces my ischial tubes' squarely supported for correct ergonomic sitting. Which , Eliminated the burning pains I was having with any extended sitting
. and as I have Tarlov cysts, So my sarcum can be a bit testy still with pressure on it -
The chair I got places no pressure on the sarcrum , the back is adjustable so I have it set to support /Contact my back above the sacrum .
I wish I had known about this chair much earlier. I could have been back at work years earlier, after soon after my surgery , had I known of this option .
Reviews and Chair Types are on website
His Contact and website /FB is here:
Carmichael Throne Company
Dan Carmichael
http://www.carmichaelthrone.com/
https://www.facebook.com/Carmichaelthrone
dan@carmichaelthrone.com
info@carmichaelthrone.com
770-639-9313 cell- Office number is on website-
I feel comfortable saying and sharing his cell number here. The people at Sam Ash Music contacted him and he gave his cell-as his contact for pudendal folks looking for info on the chairs.
I can't recommend this chair highly enough . My husband doesnt have sitting issues but got one, to avoid sittjng issues , as his job requires alot of sitting
One of the IC network ladies - has one and I believe will also be posting a link to them on their website and making a video review of them - I will post that when it comes out.
regardless, This is a game changer esp for us pudendal pain people . and will can help our population so much.
Feel free to contact me if you have any additional questions and certainly the owner- he is very open about his story and extremely helpful , when it came time for me to pick the best chair for my job as a music editor, composer and instrumental performer . The chair works in all my work settings, and is portable enough to put in the truck and take to any gigs I play . Plus as its simple and black blends in well on stage and doesn't look like a medical device- It just looks hip !!
I got this one http://www.carmichaelthrone.com/product ... ing-stool/
though the office ones look dreamy as well
Ive been thinking I needed to get a post up about this chair , but been busy working and sitting
Hope that this helps, Its been a godsend for me.
Yoland - Joy
"RE : Which one did you order? and where is your pain - perineum, cocycx, genital? Thanks for any reply."
My pain was sacrum , pudendal , perineum, cocycx, and genitals. I would also get alot of burning on my buttocks , back of upper thighs -IE where you sit !
and upper inner thighs IE S2,/3/4 dermatodes ? if you look at the map- I had burning in all those areas , as well as rectal spasms.
I got PN from 4 large bilateral tarlov cysts .
I also started, after I was able to sit longer over 30 mins ( about 2 1/2 yrs postop tarlov Cyst Surgery ) to go numb -
quite quickly , when I sat on the floor- Crosslegged which was my most comfortable position . But otherwise , sitting was still a trigger for pain for me , even though the surgery fixed the most severe pains I had. And sitting was what I needed to do , do get on with my life and back to work .
I of course have a billion different cushions I tried- Another post would be needed to explain how I found the best one for me.
But with chairs - as we know even the best cushion desnt work - unless the chair itself is perfectly flat - Not many are.
I bought the kneeeling chair - and did a cut out at the back- tailbone area - and added cushion as it bottoms out quickly - kind of worked but only for very short sits
Then I got the Hara Chair - it was okay - ( my husband loves it- but again only worked for short periods as the gap wasnt wide enough - there was still too much pressure on my tender - easily irritated areas . See above .
these chairs are fantastic- I just got Mine. I knew about them months ago and contacted the owner Dan Carmichael as soon as learned of them .
It has taken awhile to get mine, not because of him, but because I had my state Dept of Rehab buy mine, as part of my reasonable accommadation package for getting back to work .
Dan Carmichael , The owner of the company is great , He is a wealth of knowledge and can steer you to the chair best suited to your needs. He did a ton of research and had alot of imput from chiro/pt and ergonomic sitting experts to make sure that the chairs would still be the best support for lower back and hips , even though they have the center cut out to eliminate any Perineal. pressure /contact .
What is amazing , is he too had pudendal and tailbone pain . Which is why he developed them. - first, drum stools ( he was a professional drummer) then the task chairs.
Out of desperation, over his own condition and a concern over supporting his own growing family .
Kind of devine intervention , if you believe in such things. He is super easy to talk to , a very humble, and compassionate man . He gets it , as he has been there.
I am thrilled with my chair . - I have the drafting task chair CT 1690 w/ foot rest . That best suits my work ( music editor) and I can easily go from sit to stand as needed with this set up, the drafting chair and a adjustable tilt drafting table . I have the drafting table set so that all I need to do is push the chair back and i am in the standing position- Nothing needs adjusting , I can go back and forth as needed . Anyone in the DC area that wishes to try mine , first , is welcome to contact me -
Within the month there should be one of the desk type chairs, which are lower - for a typical desk setup, at my physical therapists office near Baltimore.
The drum stools are in Sam Ash music stores.
They give you an idea , the chairs are not quite as firm as the drum stools, So don't be put off by that , if you try the drum stool first .
All the chairs are hand made in the US and can be Customized for the client 's specific needs.
I have a larger gap 3 1/2 inch instead of 3 ( standard) as that suits my needs and butt size LOL
It also paces my ischial tubes' squarely supported for correct ergonomic sitting. Which , Eliminated the burning pains I was having with any extended sitting
. and as I have Tarlov cysts, So my sarcum can be a bit testy still with pressure on it -
The chair I got places no pressure on the sarcrum , the back is adjustable so I have it set to support /Contact my back above the sacrum .
I wish I had known about this chair much earlier. I could have been back at work years earlier, after soon after my surgery , had I known of this option .
Reviews and Chair Types are on website
His Contact and website /FB is here:
Carmichael Throne Company
Dan Carmichael
http://www.carmichaelthrone.com/
https://www.facebook.com/Carmichaelthrone
dan@carmichaelthrone.com
info@carmichaelthrone.com
770-639-9313 cell- Office number is on website-
I feel comfortable saying and sharing his cell number here. The people at Sam Ash Music contacted him and he gave his cell-as his contact for pudendal folks looking for info on the chairs.
I can't recommend this chair highly enough . My husband doesnt have sitting issues but got one, to avoid sittjng issues , as his job requires alot of sitting
One of the IC network ladies - has one and I believe will also be posting a link to them on their website and making a video review of them - I will post that when it comes out.
regardless, This is a game changer esp for us pudendal pain people . and will can help our population so much.
Feel free to contact me if you have any additional questions and certainly the owner- he is very open about his story and extremely helpful , when it came time for me to pick the best chair for my job as a music editor, composer and instrumental performer . The chair works in all my work settings, and is portable enough to put in the truck and take to any gigs I play . Plus as its simple and black blends in well on stage and doesn't look like a medical device- It just looks hip !!
I got this one http://www.carmichaelthrone.com/product ... ing-stool/
though the office ones look dreamy as well
Ive been thinking I needed to get a post up about this chair , but been busy working and sitting
Hope that this helps, Its been a godsend for me.
Yoland - Joy
Last edited by yoland on Sat May 09, 2015 9:15 am, edited 4 times in total.
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Thx Joy
for re-postig about this chair,,
I just happened to notice it again after 2 years,, have the same pain aching rectal pain. still .. will call the company and see if its a possible choice me for me.
I am mainly interested in chaur cushions that would help me to sit in social situtions and driving so I can get out....so not sure it this if for me or if now they may have a portable model?
Thx for all the info!
Would love to email with you some time about the Tarvlov cysts issue...Will explain why.
I remember your posts from a few years back and glad you're doing well
Thx again.
Kathy
for re-postig about this chair,,
I just happened to notice it again after 2 years,, have the same pain aching rectal pain. still .. will call the company and see if its a possible choice me for me.
I am mainly interested in chaur cushions that would help me to sit in social situtions and driving so I can get out....so not sure it this if for me or if now they may have a portable model?
Thx for all the info!
Would love to email with you some time about the Tarvlov cysts issue...Will explain why.
I remember your posts from a few years back and glad you're doing well
Thx again.
Kathy
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Thanks so much for this post. I have had several bouts over the years with what I know suspect is pudendal neuralgia. I have a new flare up and I am new to this group I just found it. As I sit on my cushion writing this, I will definately look into your info.
Thanks again,
brucen
Thanks again,
brucen
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kathy D
Have you tried the cushions your assets Cushion?
http://cushionyourassets.com/Twin-Cheek ... TWC101.htm
Their design is really spot on - If you are at your ideal wight its really quite good . Sadly my Assets were a tad big and needed a cushion that was wider in the support area under the legs - After some experimentation- I found a used Beehive cushion and the kid of copied their ideas - Hired a professional upholstery place to cover the two cushion pieces we cut from th beehive cushion -
Used with a wider base Beehive Cut in two - https://www.caremedicalsource.com/Shop/ ... -Sensitive Covered with batting and then a suede like black material .
As you can see pricy - why I jumped at the used on I found being given away .
Hope it that this lasts longer than the cushion I have been using - Which was great for a year of real sitting then quietly died .
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PR5 ... 5HQ87FW2CR
If you have no Vulvar pain this one looks ideal- http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HS3BLP0?psc=1
This might work well http://www.intellibed.com/wp-content/th ... ckling.jpg
Used those plastic yard bag holders - AS BASE http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Bagger-Plast ... B0000BYCMO
Basically a heavy duty winter slip and slide type thing as the base with a non skid backing - and velcro to placate 2 ' Cheeks " where I need them on the base,
Works well on most surfaces
Have you tried the cushions your assets Cushion?
http://cushionyourassets.com/Twin-Cheek ... TWC101.htm
Their design is really spot on - If you are at your ideal wight its really quite good . Sadly my Assets were a tad big and needed a cushion that was wider in the support area under the legs - After some experimentation- I found a used Beehive cushion and the kid of copied their ideas - Hired a professional upholstery place to cover the two cushion pieces we cut from th beehive cushion -
Used with a wider base Beehive Cut in two - https://www.caremedicalsource.com/Shop/ ... -Sensitive Covered with batting and then a suede like black material .
As you can see pricy - why I jumped at the used on I found being given away .
Hope it that this lasts longer than the cushion I have been using - Which was great for a year of real sitting then quietly died .
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PR5 ... 5HQ87FW2CR
If you have no Vulvar pain this one looks ideal- http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HS3BLP0?psc=1
This might work well http://www.intellibed.com/wp-content/th ... ckling.jpg
Used those plastic yard bag holders - AS BASE http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Bagger-Plast ... B0000BYCMO
Basically a heavy duty winter slip and slide type thing as the base with a non skid backing - and velcro to placate 2 ' Cheeks " where I need them on the base,
Works well on most surfaces